It’s Like This…
September 5th, 2008 by Cali & Jody
J.A. Counter & Associates is one of the proud companies that is officially ROWE - and by that, we mean they’ve gone through the ROWE migration process. They are an insurance and investment firm in New Richmond, WI, and have been a ROWE for about five months. Just three months post-migration, ROWE was one of the foundational changes that caused them to experience:
- revenue per full-time employee up 18%
- profit per full-time employee up a whopping 250%
- accuracy rates in the Personal Markets Department up 14.45%, effectively eliminating reprocessing at both the rep/admin and compliance/supervisory levels
We wanted to give you a glimpse inside their ROWE migration through the eyes of Jill Luken, one of their employees:
C&J: How were you first introduced to the fact that J.A. Counter was considering migrating to a ROWE?
Jill: I was somewhat “recruited” to interviewing at JAC, as they had an opening and a friend of mine told JAC about me and they wanted to interview. From there, I was very hesitant because I really liked my job and wasn’t looking for a new one. My friend told me I might as well just interview, so I did and I found out about ROWE. That was the only part about my current job that I had a hard time with - the lack of freedom between 8:30 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. I had 1/2-hour lunches and was considered late at 8:32 a.m. When I heard about ROWE and researched more about it, it became one of the reasons I decided to go with JAC!
C&J: As JAC started moving toward ROWE, what were some of the challenges for the entire group and for you personally?
Jill: I think it always resulted back to personal guilt. Not being at the office, or at least at home working during “normal work hours”, was hard to change. Our customers and contacts still work normal work hours. I was still fairly fresh out of college - a year or so - therefore, it’s similar to going to class, going home for some lunch, doing some homework and going back to class later. Go to a meeting, do work at the office, run home and work from home awhile, maybe head back for another client meeting and just get done what needs to be done (which sometimes takes more than 8 hours). I think it was a challenge to understand we don’t work any less; you just aren’t “chained” to the desk anymore and required to work there.
C&J: How did you work together to overcome the challenges?
Jill: We really focus on the team aspect and helping/stepping in for each other whenever needed. We told each other when we were “Sludging” and really started to focus on our own jobs, results, and actions - and made sure we had our customers’ best interests in mind at all times. A lot of brainstorming!
C&J: What is a day in a ROWE like for you?
Jill: Pretty much the same as a day in the life of non-ROWE but with a sense of freedom, which makes all the difference! If I need an extra 20 minutes one morning to eat my breakfast, I take it and I have my computer up and my calls transferred and am working while I eat. I never feel like I am being watched like a hawk, which is a fabulous feeling.
C&J: We know you get a lot of questions about ROWE. What is your response to anyone who says “A ROWE would be complete chaos. There need to be guidelines put in place like core hours to make a ROWE run smoothly.”?
Jill: If they say that, they don’t get it. That would probably be my response! If you’ve taken the time to understand how ROWE works, you would realize that it has nothing to do with forcing people to do things. Instead, if we have an issue, we brainstorm and fix it. Implementing ROWE doesn’t have anything to do with employees not working 8 to 5. It’s all about having control over what you do at all times of the day. Your customers come first and in our situation, they work 8 to 5. We all work to help them during the times they need us, but now instead of not getting services at 5:05 p.m., they can work until 6:00 p.m. and potentially still get serviced! I’m happy and they’re happy - it’s a win-win.
There are several other companies implementing ROWE and we’ll be coming at you with more stories from the trenches…
If you had to guess, what would be your team’s/department’s biggest challenge with implementing ROWE?






